Called the “greatest of all the Gracies,” Rickson Gracie was on Joe Rogan’s podcast on Monday along with rubber guard master Eddie Bravo. Following their nearly three-hour discussion about Rickson’s new Jiu Jitsu Global Federation, old fight stories, surfing, marijuana as a performance enhancer, and much more, Eddie demonstrated the rubber guard for Rickson first hand. Watch as Eddie explains where it all started for him, why he developed his system and why he feels it’s the best guard for MMA.

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