Between Bible lessons Juanito Ibarra discusses the development of James Toney as an MMA fighter. He says Toney is learning all aspects of MMA and compares him to a sponge. Ibarra also says Toney will not be rushed and will not step inside the UFC Octagon before he is ready.

When asked who Toney’s first opponent might be, Ibarra says it’s not his decision and he no longer manages fighters. If Toney does end up fighting former UFC light heavyweight and heavyweight champion Randy Couture, he says it will most likely be sometime down the road.

Ibarra also talks some boxing and gives his opinion on who he thinks would win in a fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

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