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	<title>Comments on: Gameness spotlight: Ed Clay &#8211; a ProMMAnow.com interview</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Fay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bums?  What difference a year makes.  I always thought you folks were friendly... I feel a little dirty and icky]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bums?  What difference a year makes.  I always thought you folks were friendly&#8230; I feel a little dirty and icky</p>
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		<title>By: Tijabi</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-52410</link>
		<dc:creator>Tijabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who Are You Durr?  1 year later?  I&#039;m Bill Fay.  I&#039;ve been sidelined by injuries for more than a year... Do you really believe that you can sub anyone at NMMA?  I would like a shot at your title...!??  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who Are You Durr?  1 year later?  I&#8217;m Bill Fay.  I&#8217;ve been sidelined by injuries for more than a year&#8230; Do you really believe that you can sub anyone at NMMA?  I would like a shot at your title&#8230;!??  </p>
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		<title>By: Johnathan Ivey</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15701</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnathan Ivey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I stopped teaching at SSF, it was not because Ron didn&#039;t pay me. Ron always paid me what i was owed and he always did it when he said he would do it. I have never said anything about that so i have no idea where that came from. When i stopped teaching at SSF it was because me and Ron disagreed on a couple different things. The biggest of which was how to teach the MMA program. My outlook was MMA class was only 60 minutes and i wanted all 60 minutes to be fight training (stand up, submissions, takedowns, etc.) and to leave it up to the people in the class to do cardio outside of that 60 minute window i had to teach them fighting skills. Ron wanted his fighters to be in great shape and to involve cardio drills and things during the class. I can see his point, but i had my own way of wanting to do things and i had already had a fight team that i took to a combined record of 49-16 so i felt good about my way of doing things. But Ron owned the gym, so i left. And i am VERY impressed with Ron&#039;s guys that he has now so he knew something that i didn&#039;t i guess. It never had anything to do with money at all. Me and Ron have had our ups and downs, but Ron has been there for me when he didn&#039;t have too. He has nothing to gain by taking me under his wing, but he has. And i will never forget it. Ed Clay has always been very nice to me and he has been around this sport just as long as i have. I think Ed is very proud of his guys and I think Ron is very proud of his guys, and when you have two guys like that, that are involved in the same sport and that live this close to each other both of them are going to want to prove there the best around. Anyway i just wanted to clear up my part. Peace out guys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I stopped teaching at SSF, it was not because Ron didn&#8217;t pay me. Ron always paid me what i was owed and he always did it when he said he would do it. I have never said anything about that so i have no idea where that came from. When i stopped teaching at SSF it was because me and Ron disagreed on a couple different things. The biggest of which was how to teach the MMA program. My outlook was MMA class was only 60 minutes and i wanted all 60 minutes to be fight training (stand up, submissions, takedowns, etc.) and to leave it up to the people in the class to do cardio outside of that 60 minute window i had to teach them fighting skills. Ron wanted his fighters to be in great shape and to involve cardio drills and things during the class. I can see his point, but i had my own way of wanting to do things and i had already had a fight team that i took to a combined record of 49-16 so i felt good about my way of doing things. But Ron owned the gym, so i left. And i am VERY impressed with Ron&#8217;s guys that he has now so he knew something that i didn&#8217;t i guess. It never had anything to do with money at all. Me and Ron have had our ups and downs, but Ron has been there for me when he didn&#8217;t have too. He has nothing to gain by taking me under his wing, but he has. And i will never forget it. Ed Clay has always been very nice to me and he has been around this sport just as long as i have. I think Ed is very proud of his guys and I think Ron is very proud of his guys, and when you have two guys like that, that are involved in the same sport and that live this close to each other both of them are going to want to prove there the best around. Anyway i just wanted to clear up my part. Peace out guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15680</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/SSFgear/DebiSSF2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/SSFgear/DebiSSF2.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15679</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/SSFgear/?action=view&amp;current=DebiSSF2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
I like this picture of Debi Purcell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/SSFgear/?action=view&amp;current=DebiSSF2.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a><br />
I like this picture of Debi Purcell.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, we did years ago.  But when she fought in Japan she just put our name on a shirt because she is a friend and had space on her shirt.  Like I said she is cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we did years ago.  But when she fought in Japan she just put our name on a shirt because she is a friend and had space on her shirt.  Like I said she is cool.</p>
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		<title>By: promma</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15663</link>
		<dc:creator>promma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have seen that photo of Debi with your shirt Ron that is really cool. Did you guys used to sponsor her?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen that photo of Debi with your shirt Ron that is really cool. Did you guys used to sponsor her?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Clay Sr.</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15661</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Clay Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 04:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TheMad1
 I agree what you posted. &quot;We are supporting our local MMA and its fighters.&quot; That is for sure.

Ron and Entertained 
 As far as comparing penis sizes, We don&#039;t do that at our gym. Maybe that is one of the reasons our gym is bigger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheMad1<br />
 I agree what you posted. &#8220;We are supporting our local MMA and its fighters.&#8221; That is for sure.</p>
<p>Ron and Entertained<br />
 As far as comparing penis sizes, We don&#8217;t do that at our gym. Maybe that is one of the reasons our gym is bigger.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15657</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jack,
Speaking of Debi, check this out
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&amp;friendID=10066836&amp;albumID=144399&amp;imageID=2295281
She&#039;s cool as hell.

SSF is going to be the first Featured Gym of the Month for www.MMArecruiter.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,<br />
Speaking of Debi, check this out<br />
<a href="http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&#038;friendID=10066836&#038;albumID=144399&#038;imageID=2295281" rel="nofollow">http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&#038;friendID=10066836&#038;albumID=144399&#038;imageID=2295281</a><br />
She&#8217;s cool as hell.</p>
<p>SSF is going to be the first Featured Gym of the Month for <a href="http://www.MMArecruiter.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.MMArecruiter.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: TheMad1</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15653</link>
		<dc:creator>TheMad1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing is for sure reading these comments.... We are supporting our local MMA and it&#039;s fighters!  That&#039;s what it&#039;s all about...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is for sure reading these comments&#8230;. We are supporting our local MMA and it&#8217;s fighters!  That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to be in Scrap Fight Magazine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to be in Scrap Fight Magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: promma</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15651</link>
		<dc:creator>promma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In other news, debi purcell is gonna be on celebrity fit club tonight. it&#039;s on right now actually. haven&#039;t seen her yet though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news, debi purcell is gonna be on celebrity fit club tonight. it&#8217;s on right now actually. haven&#8217;t seen her yet though</p>
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		<title>By: promma</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15650</link>
		<dc:creator>promma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[be sure to tell them about all the fun we&#039;re having here at Pro MMA Now!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be sure to tell them about all the fun we&#8217;re having here at Pro MMA Now!!</p>
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		<title>By: ed clay</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15649</link>
		<dc:creator>ed clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[gonna be on tapout radio live in an hour... listen in if you get a chance... Eddie Bravo, Dan Hardy will be on there also...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gonna be on tapout radio live in an hour&#8230; listen in if you get a chance&#8230; Eddie Bravo, Dan Hardy will be on there also&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Definitely agree that this sort of stuff can garner fighter&#039;s attention.  I&#039;ve been getting calls all morning asking why so many people are using Thomas&#039;s name to garner attention for their fighters, just told them it&#039;s the nature of the beast.  We certainly like to bring up notable fighters that Thomas beat, like the guys he fought in HooknShoot, when the opportunities come up.  Once again, my problem was not at all with Ed mentioning the Campbell/Ortiz fight but rather the insinuation that Ortiz fought up a weight class for that fight when in fact he came down a weight class for that fight and the insinuation that Ortiz beat ProMMA&#039;s fighter of the year.  When they fought Thomas was not ProMMA&#039;s fighter of the year, he was just starting out and was new to SSF and not the fighter he is today. It&#039;s this sort of spin that makes people think his sort of marketing is in the grey.  I don&#039;t know how many times or how many ways to set the record straight, I just don&#039;t seem to get anywhere, guess it shouldn&#039;t bother me, all of us know it&#039;s not true but Thomas has worked really hard to achieve what he has and I just think it&#039;s shitty to try and make it look like something different then what it was.  People believe what they want to believe.  All I can do is hope that some people out there will take the time to read this and realize that Campbell (and Durr) are a couple of great guys with big hearts who deserve credit for fighting hard and being good at it.  Not to be given back handed compliments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely agree that this sort of stuff can garner fighter&#8217;s attention.  I&#8217;ve been getting calls all morning asking why so many people are using Thomas&#8217;s name to garner attention for their fighters, just told them it&#8217;s the nature of the beast.  We certainly like to bring up notable fighters that Thomas beat, like the guys he fought in HooknShoot, when the opportunities come up.  Once again, my problem was not at all with Ed mentioning the Campbell/Ortiz fight but rather the insinuation that Ortiz fought up a weight class for that fight when in fact he came down a weight class for that fight and the insinuation that Ortiz beat ProMMA&#8217;s fighter of the year.  When they fought Thomas was not ProMMA&#8217;s fighter of the year, he was just starting out and was new to SSF and not the fighter he is today. It&#8217;s this sort of spin that makes people think his sort of marketing is in the grey.  I don&#8217;t know how many times or how many ways to set the record straight, I just don&#8217;t seem to get anywhere, guess it shouldn&#8217;t bother me, all of us know it&#8217;s not true but Thomas has worked really hard to achieve what he has and I just think it&#8217;s shitty to try and make it look like something different then what it was.  People believe what they want to believe.  All I can do is hope that some people out there will take the time to read this and realize that Campbell (and Durr) are a couple of great guys with big hearts who deserve credit for fighting hard and being good at it.  Not to be given back handed compliments.</p>
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		<title>By: rob helton</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob helton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Ed is really comparing cock sizes to Ron. Just speaking the truth which always makes people feel uncomfortable. If Ed was to stay silent like people want him to he&#039;d probably be out of business. It&#039;s called marketing. If you ever want to get a lesson in it, ask Ed. Seriously he can break it down like no other.

The guy co authored a book with Dan Kennedy on it. Has his own chapter. A lot of what is going on in these comments and his interview was spelled out in the book. Brilliant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Ed is really comparing cock sizes to Ron. Just speaking the truth which always makes people feel uncomfortable. If Ed was to stay silent like people want him to he&#8217;d probably be out of business. It&#8217;s called marketing. If you ever want to get a lesson in it, ask Ed. Seriously he can break it down like no other.</p>
<p>The guy co authored a book with Dan Kennedy on it. Has his own chapter. A lot of what is going on in these comments and his interview was spelled out in the book. Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the set up as well.  It would be cool if Thomas Campbell/ Dustin Ortiz fight could happen on the Strikeforce undercard.  

Ed is right about what his job is, I am doing the same thing for my fighters.  We both have the same goals when it comes to our guys.  Now let&#039;s let this die for now so Ed&#039;s camp and mine can hash out details for the fights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the set up as well.  It would be cool if Thomas Campbell/ Dustin Ortiz fight could happen on the Strikeforce undercard.  </p>
<p>Ed is right about what his job is, I am doing the same thing for my fighters.  We both have the same goals when it comes to our guys.  Now let&#8217;s let this die for now so Ed&#8217;s camp and mine can hash out details for the fights.</p>
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		<title>By: ed clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like your idea entertained. Of course I&#039;d have to clear it with Cory. He also is fighting at 135...

And just to be clear there&#039;s a few jobs of the coaches/ management. I can care less about puffing my chest out but I want correct information to go out about our guys. In the end my job is to make Dustin as much money as possible. That includes stating our side of the facts when it comes to his fighting or including notable victorys in interviews like the one above.

It got the response for Dustin I wanted...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your idea entertained. Of course I&#8217;d have to clear it with Cory. He also is fighting at 135&#8230;</p>
<p>And just to be clear there&#8217;s a few jobs of the coaches/ management. I can care less about puffing my chest out but I want correct information to go out about our guys. In the end my job is to make Dustin as much money as possible. That includes stating our side of the facts when it comes to his fighting or including notable victorys in interviews like the one above.</p>
<p>It got the response for Dustin I wanted&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I manage one of the best 170&#039;s in the area...will that help my penis size any? Just wondering...shot in the dark...had to try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I manage one of the best 170&#8242;s in the area&#8230;will that help my penis size any? Just wondering&#8230;shot in the dark&#8230;had to try.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mann</title>
		<link>http://prommanow.com/2010/02/19/gameness-spotlight-ed-clay-a-prommanow-com-interview/comment-page-2/#comment-15642</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;First name: Greatest/ Last name: Ever&quot; you are ridiculous. Let&#039;s put aside your comment for a second. The fact that your name is a quote from a cheesy pop song is rather disgusting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;First name: Greatest/ Last name: Ever&#8221; you are ridiculous. Let&#8217;s put aside your comment for a second. The fact that your name is a quote from a cheesy pop song is rather disgusting.</p>
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